Sold Date: August 20, 2015
Start Date: August 18, 2015
Final Price: $29.99 (USD)
Seller Feedback: 2037
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JIM CROCE - You Don't Mess Around with.LP (RARE Dutch Import on "swirl" VERTIGO)

Cover=VG
LP=VG
(Side A,B,C,D)=7,7
Label=Vertigo
Catalog#=6360 700
Country of issue=Holland
Our Ref. ID#=14732

Album description:

RARE Dutch original with "swirl" VERTIGO labels; front laminated gatefold cover with 3" laminate peel lower left and a crease top right, nearly if not VG+, LP with scuffs and lighter scratches, visually a weaker VG+ but plays very well, graded as a high-end VG.

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Scroll ˅ down ˅ for F.A.Q. and our detailed grading scale (SS>M>M->EX+>EX>EX->VG+>VG>VG->G+>G>F>P>B)

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We use Record Collector Magazine's Grading Guide, it is essentially the same as Goldmine except for VG+ grade.  Simply, substitute Goldmine VG+ for our EX, though
our EX is more like VG++ most of the time (but not always)!
Our goal is to give it the lowest possible grade while remaining somewhat objective, in most cases, we are paranoid about grading, for those of you whose grading
paranoia is even greater, we offer full refund upon return.

So how do we arrive at a particular grade?  We establish a baseline grade and then start giving minuses for major or multiple issues (please review detailed descriptions).

SS    = (STILL SEALED) The record itself is in brand new condition, assumed never to have been played.

M      = (MINT)  The record itself is in brand new condition with no surface marks or deterioration in sound quality. The cover and any extra items such as the lyric sheet,
booklet or poster are in perfect condition. Records advertised as Sealed or Unplayed should be Mint.

M -    = (MINT MINUS)  MINT- is not MINT but is very close to it, near new, there might be a blemish or two, but overall record and jacket are like new or very close to new.

EX     = (EXCELLENT)  The record shows some signs of having been played, but there is very little lessening in sound quality. The cover and packaging might have slight
wear and / or creasing.

VG    = (VERY GOOD)  The record has obviously been played many times, but displays no major deterioration in sound quality, despite noticeable surface marks and the
occasional light scratch. Normal wear and tear on the cover or extra items, without any major defects, is acceptable.

G      = (GOOD)  The record has been played so much that the sound quality has noticeably deteriorated, perhaps with some distortion and mild scratches. The cover and
contents suffer from folding, scuffing of edges, spine splits, discoloration, etc.

F       = (FAIR)  The record is still just playable but has not been cared for properly and displays considerable surface noise; it may even jump. The cover and contents will
be torn, stained and / or defaced.

P       = (POOR)  The record will not play properly due to scratches, bad surface noise, etc. The cover and contents will be badly damaged or partly missing.

B       = (BAD)  The record is unplayable or might even be broken, and is only of use as a collection filler

We also use + or - to adjust grades in between, so...this scopes out to: SS/M/M-/EX+/EX/EX-/VG+/VG/VG-/G+/G/F/P/B

LPs are graded visually and conservatively under many bright lights. Questionable marks are "spot-checked".  If an LP has been play graded it will be indicated so and a
grade 1-10 will be assigned to it.  Play graded means the record has been listened to from beginning to the end, both sides. 
We've learned not to get too excited when it is hard to determine the grade, this means, we always under-grade and not over-grade!

I will NOT discuss my grading conventions or practices or attempt to convince you my grading method is the best or the right one.  Personally, since I am a collector myself,
I grade records to the best of my knowledge and according to how I feel about it, I do not grade records to deceive you. 

I feel my grade cover should give you a good clue as to the visual quality of the record.  Sometimes, visually, the record may look better than its playback condition is,
likewise, some records may look really bad but play very well, this too will alter final grade, meaning, the record may look VG but play EX, likewise, MINT- records must
sound like MINT- or very very close to it, if not, it will get an EX, no matter how good it looks.

Special note about MINT-, MINT- is not MINT but it can be.  To my understanding and acceptance, M- may have a light mark or two, even a light scratch which does not
cause any listening problems, MINT- will still be as close to new as humanly possible.  So, if you are one of those who do not accept sleeve marks (which may be on the
record from the manufacturing/pressing), please, do us all a favor and look elsewhere!  Along these lines, if you will not accept a record because an inner sleeve has a 1cm
split at the bottom, please, look elsewhere.  Most likely, nothing but a sealed record will satisfy you.
I attempt to grade MINT records as MINT- (if I was not the first owner), my other grade is MINT-- (this corresponds with others' NM grade), my next grade is EX, anything not
MINT/MINT- will be graded as EX, (sometimes, if we can't help it, we might say EX+, but, we try hard to avoid that grade).

VG+ misconception, this grade varies greatly from seller to seller.  Just for the record, our VG+ will never look as good as that of a "strict Goldmine grade",
also, VG++ does not exist in our grading.

So, what do my number grades mean? 

*10 is given only to a record that is/was purchased brand new by me, no other record will get 10!  The sound will be flawless.

*9 is given to an LP that collectors would consider MINT, (9 is my highest grade for a used record), meaning, there will be no surface noise but you might hear a pop or two
not because there is a damage (scuff or a scratch) but simply how the LP was pressed, or a flake of dust might have fallen onto it during playback.  This will sound almost like
a CD (meaning, no noise, obviously LPs sound much better than CDs), it does not get much better than this, any audiophile will be pleased with this.

*8 grade may have 4 or more faint pops or slight surface noise, usually found on a record that's been played a few times but was very well taken care of, most audiophiles will
be pleased with this.  Surface noise may only be audible in between the tracks and (possibly) during quiet parts.  If you were at school, being graded, this would be a "B" grade.

*7-8 grade may have 10 or more faint perhaps inaudible in regular listening) pops or little more surface noise bordering annoyance to those that are used to hearing things on a
CD, some audiophiles may not like this sound quality, but most will be very satisfied.  If you were at school, being graded, this would be a "C" grade.

*5-6 grade will be just like 7-8, except surface noise/crackles may be more pronounced.  The record will have constant surface noise but will not over power the music.  If you
were at school, being graded, this would be a "C-" grade.

*5  will have even more surface noise/or some clicks and/or pops. 

*4 and below will not be of sufficient quality to truly enjoy the music, it will have significant surface noise/crackling, pops etc.  I really do not have such records, well there might
be a few rare ones.

+ or - is used to enhance item's description, meaning, EX++ is so nice it could pass as MINT- but I still consider it EXCELLENT and not MINT-.  Well, we dropped ++, we now
simply say high-end or low-end, weak may also be used.

Finally, if I over grade a record (sometimes when listing many items I may miss a minor detail) I will let you know about it before sending the record to you.  NO SURPRISES!

Shipping:

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All records come in protective outer sleeves, they are shipped using proper LP cardboard mailers (not used Pizza boxes) and are further wrapped with bubble wrap.  Exception to
this is when we send package using Priority Mail, in that case, we use USPS Priority Mail box which is sturdy enough, we then double-box the entire package.  Having mailed
thousands of records that way we have never had an issue with shipping damage.  One will want to try very hard to destroy that package on purpose before really achieving any
damage to the box, so, feel safe.
I do not take out record out of the cover, I package it very tightly and I do not think any seam splitting can occur (I know many dealers do, however, I feel the record is more
important than the cover, so the cover provides additional protection, if you want me to ship it by taking the record out of the cover just send me an email asking for it).

Sadly, as of January 27 2013, USPS (United States Postal Service) have had a major 30-40% to most countries and an incredible 120% to Canada  postage increase!
Sorry for the new rates!!!
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NOTE that for International shipping to have tracking and be fully covered by PayPal the cost is around $15-20 more. Should records get lost I take no responsibility
(this has not happened yet). Personally, I recommend the cheaper option!!

US Buyers NOTE:  If you wish to insure it, please check out with Priority Mail option and drop me a note to insure it and not ship it Priority, items insured up to $70, $5 for items
insured up to $150.
Your item will be shipped within 48 hours following your payment.  For those seeking fast delivery I encourage you to use Priority Mail (you have that option upon checkout). 
Otherwise, item will be shipped via Media Mail and may take up to nine days (how slow). 

Florida Buyers NOTE:  Florida residents will be charged 7% tax.

Payments:
I accept PayPal only but contact me if another payment arrangement should be made!  PayPal is the most preferred method.  In rare cases I might accept some other form, but
please email me first.  Your payment is expected within three (3) days of auction close.  Your item will be shipped next day following your payment.
If you are unable to pay immediately or within three days, please email before you commit to purchase, we are very understanding and will wait, however, we must be sure you
intend to pay within reasonable time frame!  Please note that we pay high fees to eBay regardless of the fact that buyer has not really paid for the item.

Returns:
All records are fully guaranteed, your satisfaction is extremely important to me, more importantly...I personally have to be satisfied with the sale and know that I provided some
value to you.  I do not sell crappy records.
Should you be unhappy with records you buy, please contact me to make appropriate arrangements, normally, you would ship them back at your cost, but I will refund the entire
purchase amount once I receive the record(s) in the same condition I sent them.  Again, buyer pays for shipping items back to me!
Certain, very rare albums may be excluded from this policy, if you just wanted to copy that record, ask me for a copy on CD (at a reasonable price), do not buy and then return
the record after you copied it.
If you cannot deal with possibility of having to return the record, we encourage you not to buy from us. 

Pricing:
I do not do this for living but do know the value of records, therefore, my starting price is the absolute minimum I must get for it (I paid that much myself or it is truly, at least worth that amount). 
Items are priced according to the amount I paid for it, current availability and quality of the record and the cover.
If something seems expensive (which I'm sure some will), then we paid top dollar for it, if something seems insanely expensive, we really do not feel like selling/parting with that record,
but, we can at price shown, (no hard feelings and nothing personal), some LPs are simply dearer to us than others.
Being a collector I cherry-picked all of the records with the intent of keeping it, we never buy collections with resale in mind.
Essentially, that means, you will not get screwed by purchasing that record, because I would not feel bad paying that much for it myself.  It will be at the very least a very fair deal.  

Most importantly, all sales are guaranteed, if you should be unhappy with the record received, please return it back for a full refund.

Item descriptions:
I will do my best to describe the item as accurately as possible.  I take pictures of every detail but do not display it due to charges.  You may email me requesting additional pictures
or ask about item details.  While mistakes may happen, I will never knowingly misrepresent an item (remember, I still buy records myself and know how it feels when you buy an
item and it is nowhere near its description, thankfully, most sellers are honest.)
Finally, I will play grade all records that are not MINT- (meaning listen through the record in its entirety, not just sections) before sending it out.  If I think that record does not sound
good or is not worth what you paid for it I will let you know before sending it out, no surprises.

If condition of labels (spindle marks etc.), inserts/inner sleeves and other extras is of paramount importance to you please ask prior to purchase.  To us, condition of those is of
lesser importance and we DO NOT describe them.

Original vs. re-issue:
Sometimes it may be very difficult to determine whether an LP is an original or a later issue, in the US, matrix numbers do not always reflect whether or not the pressing is a 1st or 20th,
for that reason we shy away from saying/using words like 1st pressing or an original.
In most (if not all US stores), many dealers refer to a record as 1st pressing if it is on original label, regardless of the matrix number, yet, some buyers and dealers only consider 1st
pressing to be the one that has matrix numbers 1A/1B and so on.  To that respect, we will only refer to a record as 1st pressing if it has matrix numbers 1A/1B.
If you are like us, you love LP as a format and do not necessarily care if an album is an original/1st press.  Personally, I will always buy a MINT- re-issue than a VG+ original.

Communication:
So you purchased the record from me. Congratulations and thank you very much for your business.
Communication is of utmost relevance to us!  We encourage questions from you prior to and post-sale.  We will respond as soon as possible.
You will be kept up-to-date on the progress of your purchase and will be promptly notified of shipping.

About us:
We are avid LP collectors with some 7000 LPs and growing. European background and American know-how (is there a better combination?)
All of the records featured here and in the future listing are from my personal collection and are either duplicates or records I no longer listen to.
If you are "mint crazy" you are probably interested in SEALED records only and quite frankly, we prefer if you do your shopping elsewhere even if it involves buying sealed records from us,
if, however, you primarily listen to the music and aren't just collecting because records might be worth something you've come to the right place as the collection is bound to please most
music lovers of all genres.
Most (80%) of the records listed have been play graded on a Technics SL1200 MK5/Ortofon cartridge and listened through Senheiser headphones, therefore, my grades are very strict
and are given a number 1-10. Most are in 8-9 range, a 10 is only given to a record that was sealed and opened by me. This means a used record can only get a grade 9 and not 10.
Almost all the records are M- and EX, they have all been cleaned and covers have been cleaned as well, of course, there are some "budget" records just because we can't help picking
up yet another copy of our favorite artist.

Other notes:
I have thousands more records, if you want to see my full catalog please ask me for it, I will not spam you with special offers.