Sold Date:
September 1, 2023
Start Date:
February 24, 2023
Final Price:
£17.95
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A Certain Ratio: Force Vinyl LP (UK 1986 Factory FACT 166) - NM/NM
Thanks for looking. I'm not a dealer or a shop, I'm just an ordinary bloke selling many of my own things, most of which I've owned from new. Grading vinyl isn't easy but I check them carefully for visual marks and I clean them and play them to grade by ear on a decent turntable.
A superb near mint unmarked copy of the vinyl.
The sleeve and inner bag are are in superb condition with no damage.
Back in the 80s when I bought this new, I used to record my albums to tape to play in the car and on the move. There's a good chance this vinyl has only been played once or twice. I don't remember playing it other than recording it to tape.
Unless someone's got a new one (somehow) I think this is as good as a copy can get.
NorthA1Only Together3:40A2Bootsy Trombone – Vocals [Additional] – 4:38A3Fever 103°5:13A4Naked And White4:57SouthB1Mickey Way Trombone – 4:50B2And Then She Smiles3:59B3Take Me Down5:00B4Anthem4:53
Notes on Postage & Packing
It's regrettable that packaging a 12" and posting in the UK costs so much - it's completely disproportionate when you compare the weight and shape compared to other items. However - it's all we've got. Please note the strong mailers I use are stiff and only have room in them for a 12" record and a cardboard stiffener, or at a push, 2 12" records. They're not really designed for 2 and it will be a squeeze to package 2 that way.
The high quality stiff mailer I use costs me £1 (cheap/rubbish ones don't work) and small parcel postage is £2.85 so it's a minimum of £3.85 for P&P. Sellers also have to pay fees on P&P, a questionable eBay practice, but unavoidable.
Discogs definitions for grading.
Please note that eBay have an extra grading above VG+ called "EX" and I use that if the item is slightly better than how Discogs describe VG+.
NM A nearly perfect record. A Near Mint (NM) record has more than likely never been played. The vinyl will play perfectly, with no imperfections during playback. The record should show no obvious signs of wear. The sleeve of a 45 of EP should have no more than the most minor defects, such as any sign of slight handling. The LP cover should have no creases, folds, seam-splits, cut-out holes, or other noticeable similar defects. The same should be true of any other inserts, such as posters, lyric sleeves, etc. Many dealers won’t give a grade higher than NM, implying (perhaps correctly) that no record is ever truly perfect.
VG+ A Very Good Plus (VG+) record will show some signs that it was played and handled by a previous owner who took good care of it. Any defects are of a cosmetic nature and do not affect the actual playback. In theory, a VG+ record should sound the same as a Near Mint (NM) one. Vinyl surfaces may show some signs of wear, such as slight scuffs or very light scratches. Slight warps that do not affect the sound are okay. The label may have some ring wear or discoloration, but it should be barely noticeable. Spindle marks may be present. Picture sleeves and inner sleeves will have some wear, slightly turned-up corners, or a small seam-split. An LP cover may have sparse signs of wear and may be marred by a cut-out hole, indentation, or cut corner. In general, it plays perfectly, and if not for some minor aesthetic wear, it would be Near Mint.
VG The defects found in a Very Good Plus (VG+) record will be more pronounced in a Very Good (VG) item. Surface noise will be evident upon playing, especially in soft passages and during a song’s intro and fade, but will not overpower the music otherwise. Groove wear will start to be noticeable, such as with light scratches (deep enough to feel with a fingernail) that will affect the sound. Labels may be marred by writing, or have tape or stickers (or their residue) attached. The same will be true of picture sleeves or LP covers. However, a VG item will not have all of these problems at the same time.
G A record in Good (G) or Good Plus (G+) condition can be played through without skipping, but it will have significant surface noise, scratches, and visible groove wear. A cover or sleeve will have seam-splits, especially at the bottom or on the spine. Tape, writing, ring wear, or other defects will be present. While the record will be playable without skipping, noticeable surface noise and “ticks” will almost certainly accompany the playback.