Sold Date:
March 18, 2014
Start Date:
March 11, 2014
Final Price:
£91.00
(GBP)
Bid Count:
9
Seller Feedback:
3650
Buyer Feedback:
49
You say you will love me,
If I have to go,
You'll be thinking of me,
Somehow I will know.
Someday when I'm lonely,
Wishing you weren't so far away,
Then I will remember,
Things we said today.
You say you'll be mine, girl,
'Till the end of time,
These days such a kind girl,
Seems so hard to find.
Someday when we're dreaming,
Deep in love, not a lot to say,
Then we will remember,
Things we said today.
Me, I'm just the lucky kind,
Love to hear you say that love is luck,
And though we may be blind,
Love is here to stay and that's enough.....
To make you mine, girl,
Be the only one,
Love me all the time, girl,
We'll go on and on.
Someday when we're dreaming,
Deep in love, not a lot to say,
Then we will remember,
Things we said today.
THE BEATLES: "A Hard Day's Night"/"Things We Said Today" 45 RPM, FIRST UK PRESSING, 18th JULY, 1964.
PARLOPHONE LABEL, IN MONO: R 5160.
MAITRIX: YXCE 17714 - 1N / YXCE 17715 - 1N.
Poor light produces poor pictures for close up pictures of the tiny plastic molded letters and digits in the run-out grooves, as
they are readable I have included them. The sun came out in full after taking them and luckily I just had enough time to take
pictures of the records on top of the sleeve. They caught the incredible condition perfectly and ironically the maitrix can
be partially seen even in such small scale, the sun went in and I had to accept pictures both sides of the record being so
superbly representative of this remarkable 60 year old first pressing.
EMI STAMPING CODES: HA 2 / MG 3
"Sold In UK" ON THE PUSH-OUT CENTRE OF SIDE 2..
"Recording First Published 1964."
"Parlophone Co. Ltd." ON THE RIMS.
"KT" EMBOSSED ON SIDE 2
THE TYPE FACE ON THE RIMS IS AS TYPED ABOVE AND NOT IN THE CAPITAL LETTERS OF ALL LATER PRESSINGS,
OR EVEN THE OTHER TWO 1964 BEATLES SINGLES ISSUED EITHER SIDE OF "A Hard Day's Night" . LOGIC WAS
NOT NECESSARILY APPLIED TO TRIVIALITIES IN THE 60's, BUT IT BECOMES IMPORTANT IN THE 21st CENTURY,
BECAUSE THE FORMAT OF "A Hard Day's Night" WAS EXCLUSIVE TO THESE VERY FIRST PRESSINGS ONLY.
I can't possible explain that here, so it looks like I will have to expand on the details again immediately below, more important
than that, the B-side has been played once! Apart from the pressing related spoke like paper impact lines radiating away from
the centre hole on the B-sides label, the A -side was only played six times with such care, the record literally looks and sounds
like new.
THE RUN-OUT GROOVES STILL HAVE THE EARLIER "KT" PLACEMENT, STAMPED IN THE 9 O'CLOCK POSITION AND
NOT AT 12 O'CLOCK .
ORIGINAL 1964 PARLOPHONE SLEEVE, UNSPLIT, UNFADED AND UNTORN, WITH ONLY A RECORD IMPRESSION
AND A FEW RELATED GENTLE CREASES. THE VERY SLEEVE THE RECORD WAS FIRST PLACED INSIDE IN JULY 1964,
REGARDLESS OF A RIDICULOUS ENTRY IN 'Record Collector Price Guide' THAT DATES BACK TO THE EARLY 1990's
AND WAS AS WRONG THEN AS THE LATEST 'REVISED' BOOK.
I regularly sell Near Mint /Mint Beatles singles that have never left the sleeves they were first placed inside at EMI's pressing
plant and I also bought Beatles singles on the day of issue from January 1963. In fact, last year I sold an equally stunning first
pressing with proof of which type of sleeve was used for the "A Hard Day's Night" / "Things We Said Today" single. In July 1964,
a record shop was sent the first issues by EMI, the shop did not have did not have 'Record Collector's Price Guide' to consult,
a handwritten' R 5160' catalogue number confirmed once again that ridiculous assertion, "A Hard Day's Night" came in a later
designed Parlophone sleeve with a wavy top, 'Type 1B', is incorrect and that should have been revised in the 1990's decade.
I get annoyed because these 1964 sleeves are generally in such a poor state they can no longer hold a record because they are
ripped open or lost decades ago. Sellers without morals use counterfeit sleeves, when an honest approach would be a plain
sleeve from 2014, not a pathetic fake one. I have an absolutely stunning authentic 1964 Parlophone sleeve here and yet I feel
obliged to justify it's originality in relation to the very first pressings of "A Hard Day's Night." This is unfaded, unsplit and in
fantastic condition, just a record impression and a few paper ripples, like the record, this is also 50 years old and a matching
sleeve, a pair in such stunning condition is exceptional, but hardly surprising.
THE ORIGINAL AND AUTHENTIC 1964 PARLOPHONE SLEEVE IS IN EXCELLENT+++ / NEAR MINT- CONDITION.
THE RECORD WAS ONLY PLAYED ONCE ON THE B-SIDE AND SIX TIMES FOR THE A-SIDE, WITH AMAZING CARE FOR 1964,
BOTH SIDES ARE COMPLETELY UNMARKED AND IN GLEAMING NEAR MINT CONDITION.
It would be much easier for me to list a re-issue of "A Hard Day's Night" because then I would not have to give the details for
a UK first pressing, which will involve me with once again picking my way through an incorrect presentation of what is after
all, a straight forward uncomplicated Beatles No.1 record. This is indeed a first UK pressing and a really beautiful unmarked
and hardly played one, so I will give all the reasons I actually considered avoiding going over the same old ground....yet again.
I had hoped our UK main record price guide would finally get round to correcting the glaring errors still in the Beatles section,
I rarely open the pages after buying the 2010 so called 'revised' edition, but I needed to know in advance if the errors had been
corrected to supply the accurate details with my my ebay listings, the "A Hard Day's Night" single is another example of that.
I had enough by the time the current book was published, for the first time since it existed, I was not wasting money ever again.
Beatles collectors who missed the 1960's era or were non-UK residents, can't fall back on first hand experience and knowledge
of buying this single as issued, are relying on text books such as that. Plus anyone selling records needs accurate and easily
understood methods to identify which pressing they have, which with the advent of ebay, that has become even more essential.
In 1968 John Lennon wrote the lyric,"Don't you know you can count me out/in," leaving making a decision open because he was
undecided when he was referring to the very serious subject of using violence to start a revolution. Re-adressing that listing
for a No.1 Beatles single like "A Hard Day's Night," it once again left me sighing in disbelief at the same dithering, non-committal
and totally confusing entry. Underneath the Beatles 1964 singles section is a bracketed sub-heading, I quote;
With "Parlophone Co. Ltd" in either upper-lower or in the upper case, "Recording 1st Published 1964"& "Sold In UK" label text.
So far so good, then it goes on to list the three Beatles 1964 singles, "Can't Buy Me Love," "A Hard Day's Night" & "I Feel Fine."
Alongside the first and the third 1964 singles, "Can't Buy Me Love" & " I Feel Fine" it correctly states, "PARLOPHONE CO." is in
the upper case. Sandwiched in the middle and so in theory the same should apply to "A Hard Day's Night," yet there is no mention
of the 'case', I am sure many will be wondering what exactly a 'case' actually is, I much prefer naming them in the simple terms I
learnt as a kid in school, capital or non capital letters, who needs the confusion of 'upper-lower or in the upper case' anyway?
Whether it was logical or not,the fact is first pressings of "A Hard Day's Night" singles only came with the "Parlophone Co. Ltd"
lettering in the 1963 style of the overwhelming majority of label's non-capital letters/lower case, in plain language, as typed!
The fact it is indeed illogical, it becomes even more important and absolutely vital to enable identification of first pressings
of a major 49 year old Beatles record, that type face should have been very clearly stated, due to a contradictory manner of the
printing style on the label's rims. Why I gave those Lennon lyrics, "Don't you know you can count me out /in," was because I just
adopted reading their really confusing information as if I was someone who had never before seen or bought a first pressing of a
UK "A Hard Day's Night" single. Having tried to make sense of first,"either upper-lower or in the upper case", which to me reads
more like a nonsense nursery rhyme or sheer gibberish, even to an experienced Beatles collector and a professional record seller,
I was left with the feeling of trying to glean the details from someone who would not commit himself or just simply did not know.
'Either' should never have become part of informative pieces of 'definitive rules,' especially if two out of three 1964 Beatles
UK singles have the noted type/font styles given. Are we supposed to just assume it came with either printing style or use logic
by saying it simply could not have the same 1963 format used in July 1964? In the end I just picked up the record, looked at it,
and thought how simple it would be to state a label's rim without all the confusing utter nonsense. The Parlophone sleeves given
in the book make me just as frustrated when this is hardly some obscure record company or little known artists, EMI did not throw
away or destroy the previous types, they were used until they were all gone, obviously late 1963 to early '64 sleeves were still
in circulation on 1964 records. I'm not discussing worn out singles, which no doubt were not even kept inside an original sleeve
for long, for stunning condition first pressings I only ever sell, they are the best possible examples of how they were actually
bought from UK record shops. I get frustrated because we are talking about the most collected artist's records on the planet!
The Beatles did not require a 50th Anniversary of their debut single, to confirm their original 60's records are as desirable today
as they were when first issued, I wonder how many of the current Top Ten will have anyone collecting them in 50 years time?
Excuse me for not repeating any of the label details again here, they are clearly laid out above in my main headings and pictures
of both labels can be enlarged in the pictures section to clarify the text. Also seen there, the labels are in superb unblemished
condition with untarnished extremely bright, unscuffed silver printing. Another important detail of a first pressing not given in
the reference book, these first pressing only, will positively have the maitrixes ending with '-1N' on both sides of the records.
The heavyweight record is gleaming with the deep glossy shine of mint vinyl, without any marks or scratches, anything else is
near invisible to invisible, nothing on either side and spindle use traces are showing the few plays were as low as only twice.
As commonly found, when the centre hole was punched out after the labels were fixed, the paper around it has the effect of a
bullet passing through. I best describe that as tiny spokes radiating away from the 'impact', definitely not from spindle use and
and there from just being pressed, I am fully experienced with unplayed 1960's Beatles singles and this is pretty close to that!
Vital to any early 60's Beatles single, they were made with a perfect stylus, blunt needles caused horrific damage to the music
signals and sad to say the majority were ruined on first days of purchase. All important, the sound quality, as I am constantly
writing, like their LP's and EP's, UK Beatles singles were pressed with the most stunning mono sound, they should only leave you
blown away and marvellng at the power and audio clarity, not struggling to hear the fantastic music through muffled noise, loud
crackles and distortion. In this case a simply staggering sounding record as well as a truly beautiful looking first pressing,
that is also outstanding for audio clarity, with stunning definition for all the individual instruments and the vocals.
The run-in grooves to "A Hard Day's Night" are as near to silent as I have ever heard, low level static should not need detailing
but I insist on painting clear 'pictures' of the sound. So a single guitar chord intro has ultra clear and perfectly clean sound,
exactly as I keep insisting they were pressed with all those decades ago. Wear caused the terrible crackles and clicks found on
as high as 90% of all originals. If that was not the reality of supposed plentiful top conditions I would be very happily listing
Beatles singles on ebay on a daily basis, not having to adopt my strictest selective process, in place since the day I first sold
one in the 80's. The very powerful mono sound is incredible, with the fullest possible volume mastered into very deep grooves,
yet giving perfectly clean, sharp audio. The individual instruments from the rhythm and lead guitars to the very subtle cow bell,
are in stunning sound definition. The music signals are at the full original full strength, allowing sensational impact of the UK
mono mix to be thoroughly enjoyed. Applying to the entire running length, surface sound does not even register, the vocals are
as equally well projected and the way George Martin finished this 45 mix, has to heard to be believed. I'm not going to leave out
any recording or mixing info because of printing formats on labels, but here's a snippet. On this occasion for the actual mixing,
the Beatles were on the other side of the world in New Zealand, a technical note, the original UK 45 mix is completely different
to the album version. The running speed was very slightly increased, you will need to know both versions really well or play them
back to back to pick it up, you will not find that in text books. A personal opinion, but but one based on 50 years of constantly
playing both versions, plus my comprehensive collection of revealing Abbey Road studio out-takes, contains the recording process.
There is a fallacy that an LP track has the same mix and mastering as a single, but unlike LP tracks in the 60's, 45's were mixed
and mastered with mono only radio plays very firmly in mind. They have extra power and that's why distortion rears it's ugly head
so often, not here though, this has absolutely stunning clarity.
Just one play of a 1964 Beatles single side is unreal, I will be only the second to hear the wonderful "Things We Said Today.
Another set of ultra smooth run-in grooves, a strident, really striking impact of the acoustic guitar chords acting as the intro
to "Things We Said Today," is here in the most incredible sharpness. Once again, no crackles, clicks or surface sound, the sole
reason for such perfect audio during the intro and the rest of the track. Those acoustic guitars help to provide a driving rhythm
with Ringo's splendid percussion, while Paul sings the superb lead vocals. His voice is double tracked, he's harmonising with his
his own voice during this song, John & George only give him an instrumental backing. A Beatles song of the very highest standard
and to think it was still in 1964, such a wonderful track to hear from a mono single, if not for the pressures of filming and all
the touring schedules, I'm sure a non album track would have been used. Most groups would have been delighted to have this as
an A-side, such was the Beatles astonishing composing skills to get a film soundtrack written, they excelled themselves and you
could pick any track from the album and it could have made a superb single. Not that either format's sales were affected by the
sheer quality of the Beatles output in 1964, any new record would have been eagerly bought and added to the growing number in
collections by mid-1964, now four Beatles LP's! It really does take this kind of retrospective look back after 50 years to fully
appreciate the true magic of the Beatles, they wrote, recorded and made the most stunning records of all time. The sound was
simply immaculate for every second, no crackles or surface sound, just ultra powerful, crystal clear analogue mono.
{Roy}
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